Comments on: Jesus is Simple http://bedeviant.com/jesus-is-simple Faith & Culture Sun, 24 Apr 2011 04:29:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Jesse Phillips http://bedeviant.com/jesus-is-simple/comment-page-1#comment-4605 Jesse Phillips Wed, 09 Jun 2010 19:40:28 +0000 http://www.bedeviant.com/?p=2881#comment-4605 yes =) yes =)

]]> By: Justin Wise http://bedeviant.com/jesus-is-simple/comment-page-1#comment-4604 Justin Wise Wed, 09 Jun 2010 19:35:25 +0000 http://www.bedeviant.com/?p=2881#comment-4604 Good distinction. I think my understanding (and I would argue the popular cultural understanding) of the word "saved" is different than what the Bible suggests.<br><br>"Saved." in many evangelical circles, references a one-time event. While one can have a salvific moment that they can point to, the Biblical concept, as whole, promotes a process of being saved. Out life in Christ is filled with particular moments of "being saved." We are always being saved ... From sin, brokenness, despair, destruction and, ultimately, death.<br><br>Some could say it semantics, but I think it's much deeper. That's why I wrote "if there is such a thing." I'm a big believer in being saved as a process. Not so much as an event.<br><br>Does that make any sense? Good distinction. I think my understanding (and I would argue the popular cultural understanding) of the word “saved” is different than what the Bible suggests.

“Saved.” in many evangelical circles, references a one-time event. While one can have a salvific moment that they can point to, the Biblical concept, as whole, promotes a process of being saved. Out life in Christ is filled with particular moments of “being saved.” We are always being saved … From sin, brokenness, despair, destruction and, ultimately, death.

Some could say it semantics, but I think it's much deeper. That's why I wrote “if there is such a thing.” I'm a big believer in being saved as a process. Not so much as an event.

Does that make any sense?

]]> By: Jesse Phillips http://bedeviant.com/jesus-is-simple/comment-page-1#comment-4603 Jesse Phillips Wed, 09 Jun 2010 18:36:35 +0000 http://www.bedeviant.com/?p=2881#comment-4603 Good point. I think this is largely missing from the Church =(<br><br>Saved? If there is such a thing? I mean the bible talks a lot about it! "save", "saves" or "saved" "salvation" is used over 120 times in the NT (granted, not all are references to being "saved" as you mention above, but most are. <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/keyword/?search=saved%2520save&version1=31&searchtype=any&spanbegin=47&spanend=73" rel="nofollow">http://www.biblegateway.com/keyword/?search=sav...</a><br><br>It occurs often enough that we all need some way to explain it, how do you explain it? Good point. I think this is largely missing from the Church =(

Saved? If there is such a thing? I mean the bible talks a lot about it! “save”, “saves” or “saved” “salvation” is used over 120 times in the NT (granted, not all are references to being “saved” as you mention above, but most are. http://www.biblegateway.com/keyword/?search=sav…

It occurs often enough that we all need some way to explain it, how do you explain it?

]]> By: Jesse Phillips http://bedeviant.com/jesus-is-simple/comment-page-1#comment-3923 Jesse Phillips Wed, 09 Jun 2010 14:40:28 +0000 http://www.bedeviant.com/?p=2881#comment-3923 yes =) yes =)

]]> By: Justin Wise http://bedeviant.com/jesus-is-simple/comment-page-1#comment-3922 Justin Wise Wed, 09 Jun 2010 14:35:25 +0000 http://www.bedeviant.com/?p=2881#comment-3922 Good distinction. I think my understanding (and I would argue the popular cultural understanding) of the word "saved" is different than what the Bible suggests.<br><br>"Saved." in many evangelical circles, references a one-time event. While one can have a salvific moment that they can point to, the Biblical concept, as whole, promotes a process of being saved. Out life in Christ is filled with particular moments of "being saved." We are always being saved ... From sin, brokenness, despair, destruction and, ultimately, death.<br><br>Some could say it semantics, but I think it's much deeper. That's why I wrote "if there is such a thing." I'm a big believer in being saved as a process. Not so much as an event.<br><br>Does that make any sense? Good distinction. I think my understanding (and I would argue the popular cultural understanding) of the word “saved” is different than what the Bible suggests.

“Saved.” in many evangelical circles, references a one-time event. While one can have a salvific moment that they can point to, the Biblical concept, as whole, promotes a process of being saved. Out life in Christ is filled with particular moments of “being saved.” We are always being saved … From sin, brokenness, despair, destruction and, ultimately, death.

Some could say it semantics, but I think it's much deeper. That's why I wrote “if there is such a thing.” I'm a big believer in being saved as a process. Not so much as an event.

Does that make any sense?

]]> By: Jesse Phillips http://bedeviant.com/jesus-is-simple/comment-page-1#comment-3920 Jesse Phillips Wed, 09 Jun 2010 13:36:35 +0000 http://www.bedeviant.com/?p=2881#comment-3920 Good point. I think this is largely missing from the Church =(<br><br>Saved? If there is such a thing? I mean the bible talks a lot about it! "save", "saves" or "saved" "salvation" is used over 120 times in the NT (granted, not all are references to being "saved" as you mention above, but most are. <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/keyword/?search=saved%2520save&version1=31&searchtype=any&spanbegin=47&spanend=73" rel="nofollow">http://www.biblegateway.com/keyword/?search=sav...</a><br><br>It occurs often enough that we all need some way to explain it, how do you explain it? Good point. I think this is largely missing from the Church =(

Saved? If there is such a thing? I mean the bible talks a lot about it! “save”, “saves” or “saved” “salvation” is used over 120 times in the NT (granted, not all are references to being “saved” as you mention above, but most are. http://www.biblegateway.com/keyword/?search=sav…

It occurs often enough that we all need some way to explain it, how do you explain it?

]]> By: Lisa http://bedeviant.com/jesus-is-simple/comment-page-1#comment-3415 Lisa Mon, 22 Mar 2010 18:25:02 +0000 http://www.bedeviant.com/?p=2881#comment-3415 I don't know of very many who love themselves...I meant DON'T love themselves. I don't know of very many who love themselves…I meant DON'T love themselves.

]]> By: Lisa http://bedeviant.com/jesus-is-simple/comment-page-1#comment-3414 Lisa Mon, 22 Mar 2010 18:24:12 +0000 http://www.bedeviant.com/?p=2881#comment-3414 I don't know of very many who love themselves. We primp, we do what we want and climb over people to get our way. Why? Because we love ourselves. Yes, there are some who suffer from altered reality but, as a whole, we love ourselves and will do about anything to put ourselves and our comfort first. I don't know of very many who love themselves. We primp, we do what we want and climb over people to get our way. Why? Because we love ourselves. Yes, there are some who suffer from altered reality but, as a whole, we love ourselves and will do about anything to put ourselves and our comfort first.

]]> By: Kelly Anne http://bedeviant.com/jesus-is-simple/comment-page-1#comment-3151 Kelly Anne Sat, 27 Feb 2010 15:59:16 +0000 http://www.bedeviant.com/?p=2881#comment-3151 This is wonderful. A friend of mine has recently been asking a lot of questions of me regarding what Christians believe about this or that. I'm Catholic, so I fall back on our catechism a lot in my explanations to him, but I always feel as though in my attempt to give him enough information I'm steering him wrong. This gets at the heart of what it's all about.<br><br>Well said. This is wonderful. A friend of mine has recently been asking a lot of questions of me regarding what Christians believe about this or that. I'm Catholic, so I fall back on our catechism a lot in my explanations to him, but I always feel as though in my attempt to give him enough information I'm steering him wrong. This gets at the heart of what it's all about.

Well said.

]]> By: Janet Oberholtzer http://bedeviant.com/jesus-is-simple/comment-page-1#comment-3150 Janet Oberholtzer Sat, 27 Feb 2010 02:20:29 +0000 http://www.bedeviant.com/?p=2881#comment-3150 Good thoughts ... <br>But I wonder if there's one thought that should be added - Jesus said "love others as yourself."<br>So should it be Love God, love yourself, love others? Because according to Jesus you have to love yourself before you love others. <br><br>I like this quote from Eric Hoffer ... <br>The remarkable thing is that we really love our neighbor as ourselves: we do unto others as we do unto ourselves. We hate others when we hate ourselves. We are tolerant toward others when we tolerate ourselves. We forgive others when we forgive ourselves. We are prone to sacrifice others when we are ready to sacrifice ourselves. Good thoughts …
But I wonder if there's one thought that should be added – Jesus said “love others as yourself.”
So should it be Love God, love yourself, love others? Because according to Jesus you have to love yourself before you love others.

I like this quote from Eric Hoffer …
The remarkable thing is that we really love our neighbor as ourselves: we do unto others as we do unto ourselves. We hate others when we hate ourselves. We are tolerant toward others when we tolerate ourselves. We forgive others when we forgive ourselves. We are prone to sacrifice others when we are ready to sacrifice ourselves.

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