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		<title>By: Teapot Theology &#187; context links&#8230;.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teapot Theology &#187; context links&#8230;.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 18:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] profiling and all that&#8230;.? This blog is an interesting write: linking the truth that &#8216;churches put their pastors on a pedestal and this truth is only [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] profiling and all that&#8230;.? This blog is an interesting write: linking the truth that &#8216;churches put their pastors on a pedestal and this truth is only [...]</p>
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		<title>By: @kylelreed</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 20:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great question and observation.&lt;br&gt;One of the biggest things I notice is if the church can sustain after the pastor leaves. I know that is a stupid question about church and sustaining, but if it truly is a personality driven church then all it every was built on was the pastor. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There is a church that is in the area where I live that is growing like crazy, they have 4 campuses now spread all over the area. The minister preaches at all the campuses, but not by video. He drives to each one, walks in, preaches, and then leaves. It was very disconnected for me. I stopped going because I could just go online and download his sermon. If he cannot continue this pace I am afraid that a couple of those churches will start to fall away and the campus will stop growing. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Good question though that I do not have answers for. Interested to hear what others say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great question and observation.<br />One of the biggest things I notice is if the church can sustain after the pastor leaves. I know that is a stupid question about church and sustaining, but if it truly is a personality driven church then all it every was built on was the pastor. </p>
<p>There is a church that is in the area where I live that is growing like crazy, they have 4 campuses now spread all over the area. The minister preaches at all the campuses, but not by video. He drives to each one, walks in, preaches, and then leaves. It was very disconnected for me. I stopped going because I could just go online and download his sermon. If he cannot continue this pace I am afraid that a couple of those churches will start to fall away and the campus will stop growing. </p>
<p>Good question though that I do not have answers for. Interested to hear what others say.</p>
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		<title>By: @kylelreed</title>
		<link>http://bedeviant.com/case-for-mediocre-pastor/comment-page-1#comment-2918</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 14:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great question and observation.&lt;br&gt;One of the biggest things I notice is if the church can sustain after the pastor leaves. I know that is a stupid question about church and sustaining, but if it truly is a personality driven church then all it every was built on was the pastor. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There is a church that is in the area where I live that is growing like crazy, they have 4 campuses now spread all over the area. The minister preaches at all the campuses, but not by video. He drives to each one, walks in, preaches, and then leaves. It was very disconnected for me. I stopped going because I could just go online and download his sermon. If he cannot continue this pace I am afraid that a couple of those churches will start to fall away and the campus will stop growing. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Good question though that I do not have answers for. Interested to hear what others say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great question and observation.<br />One of the biggest things I notice is if the church can sustain after the pastor leaves. I know that is a stupid question about church and sustaining, but if it truly is a personality driven church then all it every was built on was the pastor. </p>
<p>There is a church that is in the area where I live that is growing like crazy, they have 4 campuses now spread all over the area. The minister preaches at all the campuses, but not by video. He drives to each one, walks in, preaches, and then leaves. It was very disconnected for me. I stopped going because I could just go online and download his sermon. If he cannot continue this pace I am afraid that a couple of those churches will start to fall away and the campus will stop growing. </p>
<p>Good question though that I do not have answers for. Interested to hear what others say.</p>
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		<title>By: sara vanscoy</title>
		<link>http://bedeviant.com/case-for-mediocre-pastor/comment-page-1#comment-2917</link>
		<dc:creator>sara vanscoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 19:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I graduated from Bethel last spring... and actually I don&#039;t &quot;love&quot; all of those dudes... I think Piper was downright unkind in his response to his city&#039;s tragedy (bridge collapse), McManus pretty much says the same things over and over, Driscoll is just too literal for my tastes, Stanley does the same thing - same formula everytime.... and none of these dudes really preach Scripture - they preach &quot;application&quot; which i take to mean entertainment, edutainment, or whatever will maintain the curiosity of mildly interested, lukewarm people for the longest period of time.  I am certain that there are well intentioned and God-fearing, Jesus-loving people that attend all of these churches.  But... i do think it says something about us as followers of Jesus that we are always drawn to the latest greatest thing...

The more i do this - and the more i learn - and the more intimate my relationship with God becomes, the less enamored i become with big churches (and i currently attend one) - i think big churches rob us of relatedness - they allow us to &quot;go to church&quot; annonymously, more as spectators than as worshippers - they allow us to go completely unchecked with regard to accountability.  There is a reason the &quot;small group movement&quot; took off - now it&#039;s house churches - it&#039;s because Jesus knew what he was doing when he formed a small group ....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I graduated from Bethel last spring&#8230; and actually I don&#8217;t &#8220;love&#8221; all of those dudes&#8230; I think Piper was downright unkind in his response to his city&#8217;s tragedy (bridge collapse), McManus pretty much says the same things over and over, Driscoll is just too literal for my tastes, Stanley does the same thing &#8211; same formula everytime&#8230;. and none of these dudes really preach Scripture &#8211; they preach &#8220;application&#8221; which i take to mean entertainment, edutainment, or whatever will maintain the curiosity of mildly interested, lukewarm people for the longest period of time.  I am certain that there are well intentioned and God-fearing, Jesus-loving people that attend all of these churches.  But&#8230; i do think it says something about us as followers of Jesus that we are always drawn to the latest greatest thing&#8230;</p>
<p>The more i do this &#8211; and the more i learn &#8211; and the more intimate my relationship with God becomes, the less enamored i become with big churches (and i currently attend one) &#8211; i think big churches rob us of relatedness &#8211; they allow us to &#8220;go to church&#8221; annonymously, more as spectators than as worshippers &#8211; they allow us to go completely unchecked with regard to accountability.  There is a reason the &#8220;small group movement&#8221; took off &#8211; now it&#8217;s house churches &#8211; it&#8217;s because Jesus knew what he was doing when he formed a small group &#8230;.</p>
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