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		<title>By: Sam Mahlstadt </title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Mahlstadt </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 06:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure the &quot;in the round&quot; theory resolves the issue, after all, the speaker is in the center of the room... I do believe it is a step in the right direction. It boils down to affectiveness of communication that will break down walls. People want to hear good preaching and teaching, not a really approachable sub-par communicator. Perhaps the solution lies in interaction and speaker/audience dialogue, ie texting questions during a message...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m not sure the &#8220;in the round&#8221; theory resolves the issue, after all, the speaker is in the center of the room&#8230; I do believe it is a step in the right direction. It boils down to affectiveness of communication that will break down walls. People want to hear good preaching and teaching, not a really approachable sub-par communicator. Perhaps the solution lies in interaction and speaker/audience dialogue, ie texting questions during a message&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: GregAtkinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>GregAtkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 02:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep - that&#039;s why a lot of churches and conferences are setting up &quot;in the round&quot; - with the speaker in the center of the room.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep &#8211; that&#39;s why a lot of churches and conferences are setting up &#8220;in the round&#8221; &#8211; with the speaker in the center of the room.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Mahlstadt </title>
		<link>http://bedeviant.com/breaking-through-the-fourth-wall/comment-page-1#comment-2397</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Mahlstadt </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 01:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure the &quot;in the round&quot; theory resolves the issue, after all, the speaker is in the center of the room... I do believe it is a step in the right direction. It boils down to affectiveness of communication that will break down walls. People want to hear good preaching and teaching, not a really approachable sub-par communicator. Perhaps the solution lies in interaction and speaker/audience dialogue, ie texting questions during a message...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m not sure the &#8220;in the round&#8221; theory resolves the issue, after all, the speaker is in the center of the room&#8230; I do believe it is a step in the right direction. It boils down to affectiveness of communication that will break down walls. People want to hear good preaching and teaching, not a really approachable sub-par communicator. Perhaps the solution lies in interaction and speaker/audience dialogue, ie texting questions during a message&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Mahlstadt </title>
		<link>http://bedeviant.com/breaking-through-the-fourth-wall/comment-page-1#comment-607</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Mahlstadt </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 23:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure the &quot;in the round&quot; theory resolves the issue, after all, the speaker is in the center of the room... I do believe it is a step in the right direction. It boils down to affectiveness of communication that will break down walls. People want to hear good preaching and teaching, not a really approachable sub-par communicator. Perhaps the solution lies in interaction and speaker/audience dialogue, ie texting questions during a message...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m not sure the &#8220;in the round&#8221; theory resolves the issue, after all, the speaker is in the center of the room&#8230; I do believe it is a step in the right direction. It boils down to affectiveness of communication that will break down walls. People want to hear good preaching and teaching, not a really approachable sub-par communicator. Perhaps the solution lies in interaction and speaker/audience dialogue, ie texting questions during a message&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Atkinson</title>
		<link>http://bedeviant.com/breaking-through-the-fourth-wall/comment-page-1#comment-606</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Atkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 19:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep - that&#039;s why a lot of churches and conferences are setting up &quot;in the round&quot; - with the speaker in the center of the room.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep &#8211; that&#39;s why a lot of churches and conferences are setting up &#8220;in the round&#8221; &#8211; with the speaker in the center of the room.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 18:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s also that part about how if you have your back to people they can&#039;t always hear you - particularly a problem if you have a lip reader, or even just someone with a partial loss of hearing.  And in most cultures turning your back on someone is considered rude...LOOK at me when we&#039;re talking.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As for the performance thing, I have experienced this when singing in choirs.  Sometimes it was my problem, sometimes it was other members of the choir having the problem.  Once I became particularly aware of it, I would try to give myself a couple moments in the pew before I went into the choir area to remember why I was singing.  I was singing for God, not for myself...as part of the worship service, not as part of a show. (Let me state that also helped me chill the few times I had to be a cantor.)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We have been blessed with a recent series of good priests at the churches we&#039;ve been members of the last few years.  All of these men have been very approachable and very much not &quot;I&#039;m up here and you&#039;re down there and thus I am closer to God than you&#039;ll ever be.&quot;  I have, unfortunately experienced that kind of preaching and it&#039;s very disappointing.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also at two of our past churches the altar was in the very middle of the sanctuary so the service is done &quot;in the round.&quot;  This model made some people, used to a more traditional setting, very uncomfortable but it forced the priest to move around face more than just one part at a time.  At one of the churches in particular, everything happened throughout the sanctuary.  The altar is shaped like an octagon and Father would move sides of it during the Liturgy of the Eucharist so he was never facing the same way every Sunday.  The processional wove in and out of the seats (no pews - long story).  After a baptism, the baby was paraded around by the parents, and parishioners were able to mark a cross on the baby&#039;s head as they passed by.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It was a good model for &quot;we are this church, this church is us.&quot;   The people are the church, not the preacher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#39;s also that part about how if you have your back to people they can&#39;t always hear you &#8211; particularly a problem if you have a lip reader, or even just someone with a partial loss of hearing.  And in most cultures turning your back on someone is considered rude&#8230;LOOK at me when we&#39;re talking.</p>
<p>As for the performance thing, I have experienced this when singing in choirs.  Sometimes it was my problem, sometimes it was other members of the choir having the problem.  Once I became particularly aware of it, I would try to give myself a couple moments in the pew before I went into the choir area to remember why I was singing.  I was singing for God, not for myself&#8230;as part of the worship service, not as part of a show. (Let me state that also helped me chill the few times I had to be a cantor.)</p>
<p>We have been blessed with a recent series of good priests at the churches we&#39;ve been members of the last few years.  All of these men have been very approachable and very much not &#8220;I&#39;m up here and you&#39;re down there and thus I am closer to God than you&#39;ll ever be.&#8221;  I have, unfortunately experienced that kind of preaching and it&#39;s very disappointing.  </p>
<p>Also at two of our past churches the altar was in the very middle of the sanctuary so the service is done &#8220;in the round.&#8221;  This model made some people, used to a more traditional setting, very uncomfortable but it forced the priest to move around face more than just one part at a time.  At one of the churches in particular, everything happened throughout the sanctuary.  The altar is shaped like an octagon and Father would move sides of it during the Liturgy of the Eucharist so he was never facing the same way every Sunday.  The processional wove in and out of the seats (no pews &#8211; long story).  After a baptism, the baby was paraded around by the parents, and parishioners were able to mark a cross on the baby&#39;s head as they passed by.  </p>
<p>It was a good model for &#8220;we are this church, this church is us.&#8221;   The people are the church, not the preacher.</p>
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