Comments on: The 21st Century Church: The Worship Service

By: Justin Wise

Justin Wise — Thu, 15 Apr 2010 01:47:35 +0000

I would not be opposed to that. To having no connection to the government at all.

We seem pretty willing to take their benefits, but maintain separatist attitudes in other areas.

By: Justin Wise

Justin Wise — Wed, 14 Apr 2010 20:47:35 +0000

I would not be opposed to that. To having no connection to the government at all.

We seem pretty willing to take their benefits, but maintain separatist attitudes in other areas.

By: Bob Anderson

Bob Anderson — Tue, 13 Apr 2010 15:39:59 +0000

Here is an interesting thought… what happens if (due to the economic situation in our country), our government starts to take away some or all of the tax exemptions (sales, property, income, etc.), that local churches now enjoy. What if you were no longer able to get a donation for contributions. Churches would have to downsize or outright close. What would that do to the internet church?

By: Justin Wise

Justin Wise — Thu, 21 May 2009 17:00:55 +0000

Reggie – for sure, there's definitely a "digital divide" that needs to be navigated well.

Case-in-point: Churches in the remotest parts of Africa could give two rips about what Twitter is (or what the internet is, for that matter). But it's not a part of the African culture. It IS part of our culture…. So how do we educate and utilize without marginalizing?

Great thoughts… How is your community doing it?

By: Justin Wise

Justin Wise — Thu, 21 May 2009 16:59:20 +0000

That's good to hear!

By: jason kramme

jason kramme — Thu, 21 May 2009 16:10:57 +0000

Thanks man, yeah, on the Niebuhr scale I'm a blend of Christ transforming culture and Christ and culture in paradox [which shows my Lutheran stripes ; ) ].

By: Justin Wise

Justin Wise — Thu, 21 May 2009 11:43:07 +0000

In Niebuhr terms, what you're suggesting is Christ transforming Culture instead of Christ of Culture or Christ and Culture.

(For the record, I agree with you. My hope was to shine on a light on what could be strictly in the worship service itself.)

Great thoughts, Jason!

By: Bill Bolte

Bill Bolte — Thu, 21 May 2009 11:10:53 +0000

i'm following you jason. i think it centers around building disciples as well.

By: Brian Alexander

Brian Alexander — Thu, 21 May 2009 04:28:31 +0000

Linked to this series on my blog via a post.

By: jason kramme

jason kramme — Thu, 21 May 2009 04:12:11 +0000

Instead, their personal day to day lives are changed. They feed hungry people, give water to thirsty people, and serve. Being a disciple of Jesus in your day to day life makes both a qualitative and quantitative difference in the lives of others (and yourself). The God who's plan for the world is the impetus for someone feeding me when i'm starving is worthy of praise. The God who's plan i'm carrying out by feeding a hungry person, thereby changing their life, is worthy of praise.

Folks need to have a stake in what's happening at a worship service, and i dont think that we are going to do that by trying to out-culture culture. The church ought to leverage media and communications when it can, but it isnt the solution to the problem.